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Biblical Creationism



True Biblical Creationism:

Provides an intellectually honest answer to the Six Days of Genesis Dilemma.

Christians are faced with a dilemma.

Their good book contains a schedule of the origins that puts everything into a six-day chronology only a few thousand years ago. 

For thousands of years that six-day chronology has been assumed to be the official biblical position concerning the beginnings.

A few hundred years ago a dilemma arose when modern science began discovering the six-day chronology is in conflict with reality.

Untold effort has gone into resolving the conflict, but to no avail.  There have been many attempts, but until now there has been no consensus on how to reconcile the two. 

Intellectually honest analysis concludes either the six-day schedule of Genesis 1 is not the true chronology, or science is wrong.  None of the compromises is intellectually honest.

For decades the dilemma has been assumed to be whether to believe the bible or science.

Now an alternate chronology has been recognized.  There are at least thirty-four major creation accounts in the bible, not just one up front as has been traditionally assumed. 

In that myriad of biblical accounts is recorded a chronology that is not only inconsistent with the six-day chronology, it contains many more details, is consistent from account to account and consistent with reality even to the point that it predicts yet undiscovered scientific discoveries.

These are two different biblical chronologies, the six-day schedule that is found in only one account and inconsistent with both the rest of the bible and with reality, or the one found in thirty-four biblical accounts that is both internally consistent and consistent with reality.

The dilemma then becomes:  Which biblical chronology is intended to be reality, and which is fiction?  Under the rules of logic, opposites cannot both be true.   Both could be fiction, or one could be true and the other fiction, but both could not be true; at least one must be fiction.  If one is to be considered to be the official position of the bible as to the actual chronology of the origins, then which one?

True Biblical Creationism provides an intellectually honest answer. 

An indepth presentation is found in an article published on Academia.edu, Intellectually Honest Answer to the Six Days of Genesis Dilemma, by Max B. Frederick, AnOldScientist, and Debbie A. Knapp, BS, MS, 6/30/2019,  Also at, ScienceAndTheBible.net.

 

True Biblical Creationism:

Is the result of intellectually honest analysis of the technical information in all the Biblical Creation Accounts, Not just the one up front in the Bible.

In the ancient scriptures of the bible there are nearly three dozen major creation accounts.  Each of these biblical accounts is characterized by containing at least one or more technical details along with the claim that the God of the bible caused it. 


True Biblical Creationism:

Recognizes all the nearly three dozen Biblical Creation Accounts.

In the Bible there are at least thirty-four unique Biblical Creation Accounts, not just one found in Genesis 1.  These biblical creation accounts mention many technical details of the origins. Those details contain chronology clues as to the order in which things happened.  Those accounts all give God credit for causing it all to happen.  Yet they have never before been officially recognized to be creation accounts on a par with the first chapter of Genesis.  The myriad of technical details in these additional accounts gives a more complete picture of the origins.


True Biblical Creationism:
Upsets some long-held assumptions .

The Book of Genesis was compiled/edited from pre-existing  accounts that existed in written form during the time of Moses.  Biblical scholars have long held the assumption that writing did not exist from the time of the original  information until it was later written down from oral tradition.  The accurateness of the technical information preserved in the Genesis biblical creation accounts could not have been so preserved if left to oral tradition during an era when that information was not in the knowledge base of those transmitting the accounts.  They would have been passed on in the storyteller's own words.

Biblical scholars have long held the assumption that the human author of the book of Genesis was either Moses, or multiple later imposters writing under the pen name of Moses.  The validity of the technical information and the variousness of the expression thereof in the different individual biblical creation account lead to the conclusion the Book of Genesis was compiled by a compiler/editor from prior existing written accounts, probably Moses, at least in the time of Moses if not by Moses himself due to some of the information in the edits such as the names of places being originally recorded in the old name and edited to indicate the current name, current at the time of Moses.

Other assumptions such as the idea that the Ancient Hebrews believed there was any such thing as a "firmament", an idea upon such theories as the Water Canopy theory is based, are shattered.  See The Story Behind The Legend of the Firmament.


True Biblical Creationism:
Contains Many More Technical Details than
Traditional Creationism.

Recognition of the many Biblical Creation Accounts enables a more detailed view of what God revealed to humans about the origins thousands of years ago at a time when there was no way they could discover it on their own.  Among the Biblical Creation Accounts with the most technical detail is the Chronological Order of Creation Account found in Psalm 104.


True Biblical Creationism"
Is Consistent from Account to Account and
is Consistent with Reality.

That picture is not only consistent from account to account, but consistent with the technical details that modern science has been discovering in recent times.  [This is not to say there is consistency with the interpretations of either theologians or scientists when they go beyond the discovered facts and into human interpretation of the facts.]

When you interpret the whole bible based on only one creation account you do not get the same picture of what the bible says that you do if you base your interpretation on all  34 Biblical Creation Accounts.



True Biblical Creationism:

Recognizes Biblical Publication that Documents Biblical Technical Knowledge in Advance of Independent Discovery by Modern Science.

There is no need to re-interpret the bible to agree with modern science as some critics have suggested.  When you investigate the ancient scriptures in all the Biblical Creation Accounts there are many technical details published first in the ancient scriptures thousands of years before the discovery of those same technical details by modern science.  That pattern of modern science discovering technical details first recorded thousands of years ago is even continuing into the future.  A Timeline of Science and the Bible History illustrates this by listing the date of original biblical publication and the date of Modern Science discovery for many technical details mentioned in the Biblical Creation Accounts.

True Biblical Creationism:

Actually Predicted a Recent Modern Science Discovery.

See the article Modern Science Discovery Predicted by Ancient Religious Literaturefor the story of some significant technical details recognized in Biblical Creationism over ten years before being recently discovered  by modern science and published no earlier than the year 2018.  It tells the story of their publication in Ancient Religious Literature thousands of years ago, recognition in Biblical Creation accounts, and their subsequent independent discovery by modern science.


True Biblical Creationism:

Provides scientific evidence that sheds new light on answers to many biblical questions long unanswered.

For too long secular scholars have questioned the validity of the Ancient Hebrew Scripture with questions that have confounded the intellectually honest enquirer.  Such questions include, but are not limited to:

What is the true biblical age of the earth?

Did Moses really write the book of Genesis, or was it not really written until much later by imposters around the time of the Babylonian Captivity as is proposed by the documentary hypothesis?

Or maybe, was it in existence before the time of moses in scattered written accounts and those pre-existing accounts simply compiled by Moses into the book of Genesis?

Where did the ancient scriptures of the bible really come from?

When were they first written down; first preserved in writing?

Was ancient scripture originally preserved in writing or was it first transmitted by oral tradition?

Did the Hebrew religion really come from, plagiarized from, the more ancient Egyptian religion, as some secular scholars have postulated, or was it first?

How long ago did narriative writing exist?

What was the ultimate origin of the technical information in the biblical creation accounts?

How did that technical information get to us today preserved in ancient scripture accounts; what was the path the information travelled that preserved it so intact?

When did the literal seven days of the Sabbath Doctrine first become a  part of the ancient Hebrew Creation narriative?

When did the six days of Genesis 1 first become the worldview of the actual schedule of creation? 

Note that when Psalm 104 was included in the Hebrew Scriptures, assumedly around the time of David, it included a chronology of existence from eternity past to eternity future that is consistent with reality as recognized today, a chronology that has at least fifty technical points of detail, all in the correct chronology as verified by modern science, but makes no mention of any six-day schedule.

There are many more questions.  Some are the result of trying to discredit the validity of the bible.  Some are the result of trying to prove the traditional interpretation of the bible overrules modern science.  No matter the source or motivation of questions concerning the biblical record of the origins, intellectually honest analysis need not be feared.  The more the complete record of the technical details in the ancient scriptures is investigated, the more in awe of the impossibility that it could have been the  result of the imagination of the human mind.

True Biblical Creationism:

Resolves the Controversy Over What the Bible Actually Reveals About the Origins

Intellectually Honest Answer to the Six Days of Genesis Dilemma,
by Max B. Frederick, AnOldScientist, Debbra A. Knapp, BS, MS, 6/30/2019,
 Also Published on ScienceAndTheBible.net,
Recognition of these thirty-four biblical creation accounts to be official biblical creation accounts eliminates the need for trying to artificially fit the six day schedule with reality.  True Biblical Creation based on all of the Biblical Creation Accounts is consistent from account to account. It is consistent with the discoveries of Modern Science.  And thereby it resolves the controversy that has persisted since the separation of Science and Religion about the time of Galilio. 

If the six days of Genesis one is not the actual schedule of creation, then what is it?  The six-day schedule of Genesis 1 is found in only three places in the bible, all in the context of the Sabbath principle; the first place is in Genesis 1, the other two places are both in two different accounts of the giving of the Ten Commandments in the context of the fourth commandment concerning the Sabbath principle.  It is only by an extreme stretch of logic that the six day schedule can be erroneously read into creation at any other place in the bible.
The six days of Genesis one is not the schedule of the beginnings.  It is superimposed upon a prior existing account of the beginnings for the purpose of using that particular creation account to illustrate the principle of the Sabbath.

True Biblical Creationism:

Is not Traditional Creationism.

Traditional Creationism is based on only one biblical creation account and the assumption that its six days is the actual schedule of the beginnings is an assumption that is Inconsistent with the myriad of other biblical creation accounts and inconsistent with reality.

In Summary

In the Bible there are at least thirty-four unique creation accounts, not just the one found in Genesis 1.  The myriad of technical details in these additional accounts gives a more complete picture of the origins.  And that picture is consistent with the technical details that modern science has been discovering in recent times.

Discovery of the many Biblical Creation Accounts enables a more detailed view of what God revealed to humans about the origins thousands of years ago at a time when there was no way they could discover it on their own

When you interpret the whole bible based on only one creation account you do not get the same picture of what the bible says that you do if you base your interpretation on all  34 Biblical Creation Accounts.

These biblical creation accounts mention many technical details of the origins.
Those details contain chronology clues as to the order in which things happened.  They give God credit for causing it all to happen.  Yet they have never been officially recognized to be creation accounts on a par with the first chapter of Genesis.

There is one technical detail that stands in the way of their acceptance by traditional Christianity.  The common chronology contained in their technical details is not consistent with the order of events found in the six-day account; plants are not created before the sun, moon, and stars.  Instead, the order of events that is common to all thirty-four accounts is consistent with the order found in the discoveries by modern science.

The traditional Biblicals story of creation has been based on what theologians have recognized to be the official account of the origins found in Genesis chapter one.  Ignoring, not even recognizing, the rest of the biblical creation accounts has resulted in a narriative that is so inconsistent with reality that secular scholars have dubbed it the Judeo-Christian Creation Myth.

Not only are the details in these 34 biblical creation accounts consistent with reality, but they were recorded in the bible thousands of years before being re-discovered by modern science.

For centuries theologians have been blind to the many Biblical Creation  Accounts.  Possibly this is because none of the others say anything about a six-day schedule.  They have recognized parts of these many accounts, but only the parts that they can force-fit into their six-day schedule. Theologians have devised many explanations based on the hypothesis that the six-days of Genesis 1 is the official biblical schedule of the origins.  All current explanations either discredit science, or artificially stretch the six-days to be in accord with reality.

Recognition of these thirty-four biblical creation accounts to be official biblical creation accounts eliminates the need for trying to artificially fit the six day schedule with reality.  True Biblical Creation based on all of the Biblical Creation Accounts is consistent from account to account. It is consistent with the discoveries of Modern Science.  And thereby it resolves the controversy that has persisted since the separation of Science and Religion about the time of Galilio.

Recent History of True Biblical Creationism:

True Biblical Creationism was first recognized in modern times around the year 2004 when the realization dawned that there were over thirty major biblical creation accounts, not just the one up front in the bible.  This was first presented in a local seminar presentation, in May of 2004.  By 2006 thirty-four major biblical creation accounts were recognized and assembled into one cohesive presentation of the beginnings.  July, 2007 the first edition of Eyewitness to the Origins was published presenting a fairly complete compilation of all accounts into one chronologically ordered presentation of the Chronology of Existence from Eternity Past to Eternity Future based on biblical clues within those accounts.  In 2014 a condensed and easier to read version was published under the title, How the Earth was Formed.

Technical History of Biblical Creationism:

Somewhere in the past, theologians made the erroneous assumption that the six-day schedule in Genesis 1 is the official biblical schedule of creation.  That is found to be a false assumption.  The literal six, twenty-four hour days in Genesis 1 are superimposed on a pre-existing true creation account for the purpose of using that particular creation account to illustrate the literal twenty-four hour days of the Sabbath principle.  The underlying account has the chronology correct in a two pass format, the first pass gives technical details about the development of the botanical side of the food chain and the second pass, starting over in time with the creation of the sun, moon, and stars, gives technical details about the development of the zoological side of the food chain. 

The six-day schedule of Genesis 1 is found in only three places in the bible, all in the context of the Sabbath principle; the first place is in Genesis 1, the other two places are both in two different accounts of the giving of the Ten Commandments in the context of the fourth commandment concerning the Sabbath principle.  It is only by an extreme stretch of logic that the six day schedule can be erroneously read into creation at any other place in the bible.

Erroneous assumptions include many, the least of which is the assumption that the six-day schedule of Genesis is the official biblical time-line of creation events. 

Other erroneous assumptions include the assumption that the first few chapters of Genesis is a straight through chronology of the beginnings.  It is not.  A detailed study of the technical information therein reveals that it is a collection of pre-existing accounts assembled by a compiler/editor, very likely to be Moses, himself.  That collection of pre-existing accounts includes multiple biblical creation accounts about what happened before humans existed and including several independent passes through the chronology.  The first of those accounts is found in the first two verses where one pre-existing account has been condensed, edited, into a concise introduction to creation specifically pointing out the mid point in the creation sequence when the ocean had developed, but before the continents [dry ground, earth] had emerged [formed.]  This is introductory account is obviously a condensation of a more detailed pre-existing account as is seen in the older book of Job in a biblical creation account that gives all the same specific details in this short introduction plus many more details where the context as noted above is obvious.  Verse three starts the second account in Genesis 1 where the development of various aspects of the essentials for plant and animal life are presented in a two pass format through the timeline.  It is this account that has the six-day schedule superimposed and a seventh day of rest appended.  The third Genesis biblical creation account starts mid way through verse 4 of the second chapter where the setting is before there was any such thing as an ocean, long before any living thing existed such as plants or humans.  The technical details in this account have been mistakenly interpreted to say that before the flood of Noah it had never rained on the earth.  This account is not about before the flood of Noah, but about before there was any such thing as an ocean.  And it is entirely consistent with the recent discoveries by NASA and NOAA.  Then, the seventh verse of the second chapter starts another (or other) independent account(s) jumping forward in time to the introduction of humans to the scene.  But it is these first three plus thirty-one other biblical creation accounts that make up the complete biblical record of the beginnings.


Explanation:

Keys to recognizing technical stuff first recorded in Ancient Scripture:

1.  Discover the technical meanings of original language words.
     Example:  The word Earth in bible means the dry ground of continents, not the planet.  Glossary
2.  Compare multiple passages on the same subject.
     Example:  34 major biblical accounts of the origins (Not just the one up front.).  34 Biblical Creation Accounts
3.  Contrast date of original publication to date of independent human discovery by modern science.  See timeline.
     Example:  About 1015 BC, Psalm 104 included forming of the earth by emergence from below sea level in a sudden event.  In 2018 Binderman et. al. published discovery of same thing, but thousands of years later, and not until after recent publication of the recognition of that event in the many Biblical Creation Accounts.  See the books pictured to the right.

Discovering technical information recorded in the ancient Hebrew Scriptures, in the Old Testament of the Bible, reveals many previously unrecognized facts about the past that apparently were known thousands of years ago, but lost to humanity until rediscovered by modern science.

A wealth of technical information has been locked up in the Ancient Scriptures, unrecognized by modern day scholars, both religious and secular.  Many biblical creation accounts have not been recognized as such simply because of the fact that the information recorded therein is technical, not religious.

Recognizing technical information requires the acceptance of a few prerequisites. 

Accept the fact that Words have meaning.  The technical meaning of the original words used to record that information is, in many cases, overshadowed by traditional religious meaning of the words they have been translated into.

Accept the fact that Context has meaning.  Once a passage of scripture is recognized to be a Biblical Creation Account, to be a record of technical information in chronological order, the immediate context becomes the technical information observed in reality.  One versed in the technical information therein can overcome the religious bias in translation and recognize technical details in part due to their position in the chronological order.

Accept the fact that Theologians typically get it wrong when interpreting the technical information recorded in ancient scripture.  Just because theologians get technical stuff wrong does not make it wrong any more than the theologians [Pharisees] of Jesus time did not get the stuff about Jesus right.

Do not succumb to the criticism that Ancient Scripture cannot be about technical stuff unknown to humans and therefore what we see is only imagination reading science into the bible.  If Old Testament passages can contain details about the then future Jesus about whom the writer knew nothing, then the same principle applies to technical knowledge known only to God and not to humans at the time it was recorded in writing.

These basics have actually led to the recognition and publication of technical details recorded in ancient scripture before the discovery and publication of the same technical details by modern science thereby predicting or anticipating future discovery by modern science. 

This is evidence of the fact that the accusation of re-interpreting scripture to agree with science is false.